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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;Permanent Wall&#8217; Keeps Kids From CHIP Program</title>
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		<link>http://capitolannex.com/2006/10/25/permanent-wall-keeps-kids-from-chip-program/comment-page-1/#comment-142846</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 00:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: James Grosshart Sr.</title>
		<link>http://capitolannex.com/2006/10/25/permanent-wall-keeps-kids-from-chip-program/comment-page-1/#comment-29060</link>
		<dc:creator>James Grosshart Sr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 22:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>American need REAL health care coverage that doesn't have a $4000.00 deductible. Average working families cannot afford that amount of deductible. It needs to be far less - less than $1000.00 With the wages people make now a days it is simply IMPOSSIBLE &#38; INSANE to expect them to be able to handle a deductible like $4000.00 every year. It just can't be done!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>American need REAL health care coverage that doesn&#8217;t have a $4000.00 deductible. Average working families cannot afford that amount of deductible. It needs to be far less - less than $1000.00 With the wages people make now a days it is simply IMPOSSIBLE &amp; INSANE to expect them to be able to handle a deductible like $4000.00 every year. It just can&#8217;t be done!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: The Local Crank</title>
		<link>http://capitolannex.com/2006/10/25/permanent-wall-keeps-kids-from-chip-program/comment-page-1/#comment-25701</link>
		<dc:creator>The Local Crank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Children of Texas still haunted by the political ghost of Arlene Wohlgemuth</description>
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		<title>By: DriveDemocracy.org</title>
		<link>http://capitolannex.com/2006/10/25/permanent-wall-keeps-kids-from-chip-program/comment-page-1/#comment-25428</link>
		<dc:creator>DriveDemocracy.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Eye on Williamson &#187; GOP/Perry Strip Healthcare From Thousands Of Children</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eye on Williamson &#187; GOP/Perry Strip Healthcare From Thousands Of Children</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 15:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rep. Garnet Coleman has the proof. The legislation enacted during the 78th Regular Session in 2003 permanently cut hundreds of thousands of children from the Children&#8217;s Health Insurance Program. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: hhscemployee</title>
		<link>http://capitolannex.com/2006/10/25/permanent-wall-keeps-kids-from-chip-program/comment-page-1/#comment-25401</link>
		<dc:creator>hhscemployee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, there are a few things that are mentioned that aren't exactly the case- the gross income being countable is something we've ALWAYS used.  Always.  The "net" that gets referred to is the fact that in Medicaid (and CHIP)- income wouldn't be applied to the income limit until AFTER deductions for work related expenses ($120) and childcare were taken off the income FIRST.  THEN what was left- the "net" was applied against the limit and that determined whether or not the child was over or under the income limit.

Now, I think removing the deductions for childcare/work related expenses is wrong.  We still give them in Medicaid- so why not CHIP.  

Also, I'll have to research, but the vehicles don't normally count like that-generally there is a 'benchmark' (for TANF, for example, we don't count any value of a car except that amount over $4650 off the value)- what is used is what is over that benchmark.  So the example of an older truck and a wife having a car- I don't see that playing out like that.  But again, we don't certify CHIP in the local offices- only MEDICAID. 

I think some of the requirements that have been put in place are actually needed- Income needs to be verified.  Assets too.  I mean, do we really want a taxpayer funded program that does have people self declaring income?  Do we want someone with 10,000 in the bank to get state assisted healthcare for their children?

Email me Vince- I'll see what information I can find if you want me too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, there are a few things that are mentioned that aren&#8217;t exactly the case- the gross income being countable is something we&#8217;ve ALWAYS used.  Always.  The &#8220;net&#8221; that gets referred to is the fact that in Medicaid (and CHIP)- income wouldn&#8217;t be applied to the income limit until AFTER deductions for work related expenses ($120) and childcare were taken off the income FIRST.  THEN what was left- the &#8220;net&#8221; was applied against the limit and that determined whether or not the child was over or under the income limit.</p>
<p>Now, I think removing the deductions for childcare/work related expenses is wrong.  We still give them in Medicaid- so why not CHIP.  </p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;ll have to research, but the vehicles don&#8217;t normally count like that-generally there is a &#8216;benchmark&#8217; (for TANF, for example, we don&#8217;t count any value of a car except that amount over $4650 off the value)- what is used is what is over that benchmark.  So the example of an older truck and a wife having a car- I don&#8217;t see that playing out like that.  But again, we don&#8217;t certify CHIP in the local offices- only MEDICAID. </p>
<p>I think some of the requirements that have been put in place are actually needed- Income needs to be verified.  Assets too.  I mean, do we really want a taxpayer funded program that does have people self declaring income?  Do we want someone with 10,000 in the bank to get state assisted healthcare for their children?</p>
<p>Email me Vince- I&#8217;ll see what information I can find if you want me too.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phillip Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great write-up, Vince.</description>
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		<title>By:  Burnt Orange Report: Our Eyes Are Upon Texas Politics. </title>
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		<dc:creator> Burnt Orange Report: Our Eyes Are Upon Texas Politics. </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;other Republicans), it has become very difficult for middle class families to afford to send their kids to college because tuition costs are skyrocketing. Davis voted to slash funding for the Children's Health Insurance Program, and help create the "permanent wall" that kept kids off CHIP. Of course, after Sherrie Matula held Davis accountable for this vote in 2006, he quickly changed his tune and became "for" CHIP after he was "against" CHIP. Of course, by then it was too late and thousands of Texas children&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="technorati-balloon" href="http://www.technorati.com/cosmos/search.html?url="><img src="http://static.technorati.com/images/bubble_h17.gif" class="technorati-balloon" alt="links from Technorati" style="border:0;" /></a>other Republicans), it has become very difficult for middle class families to afford to send their kids to college because tuition costs are skyrocketing. Davis voted to slash funding for the Children&#8217;s Health Insurance Program, and help create the &#8220;permanent wall&#8221; that kept kids off CHIP. Of course, after Sherrie Matula held Davis accountable for this vote in 2006, he quickly changed his tune and became &#8220;for&#8221; CHIP after he was &#8220;against&#8221; CHIP. Of course, by then it was too late and thousands of Texas children</p>
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		<title>By: Lampasas Democrats — </title>
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		<dc:creator>Lampasas Democrats — </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;Republicans), it has become very difficult for middle class families to afford to send their kids to college because tuition costs are skyrocketing. Davis voted to slash funding for the Children’s Health Insurance Program, and help create the “permanent wall” that kept kids off CHIP. Of course, after Sherrie Matula held Davis accountable for this vote in 2006, he quickly changed his tune and became “for” CHIP after he was “against” CHIP. Of course, by then it was too late and thousands of Texas&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="technorati-balloon" href="http://www.technorati.com/cosmos/search.html?url="><img src="http://static.technorati.com/images/bubble_h17.gif" class="technorati-balloon" alt="links from Technorati" style="border:0;" /></a>Republicans), it has become very difficult for middle class families to afford to send their kids to college because tuition costs are skyrocketing. Davis voted to slash funding for the Children’s Health Insurance Program, and help create the “permanent wall” that kept kids off CHIP. Of course, after Sherrie Matula held Davis accountable for this vote in 2006, he quickly changed his tune and became “for” CHIP after he was “against” CHIP. Of course, by then it was too late and thousands of Texas</p>
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		<title>By: Bluedaze.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bluedaze.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;other Republicans), it has become very difficult for middle class families to afford to send their kids to college because tuition costs are skyrocketing. Davis voted to slash funding for the Children's Health Insurance Program, and help create the "permanent wall" that kept kids off CHIP. Of course, after Sherrie Matula held Davis accountable for this vote in 2006, he quickly changed his tune and became "for" CHIP after he was "against" CHIP. Of course, by then it was too late and thousands of Texas children&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="technorati-balloon" href="http://www.technorati.com/cosmos/search.html?url="><img src="http://static.technorati.com/images/bubble_h17.gif" class="technorati-balloon" alt="links from Technorati" style="border:0;" /></a>other Republicans), it has become very difficult for middle class families to afford to send their kids to college because tuition costs are skyrocketing. Davis voted to slash funding for the Children&#8217;s Health Insurance Program, and help create the &#8220;permanent wall&#8221; that kept kids off CHIP. Of course, after Sherrie Matula held Davis accountable for this vote in 2006, he quickly changed his tune and became &#8220;for&#8221; CHIP after he was &#8220;against&#8221; CHIP. Of course, by then it was too late and thousands of Texas children</p>
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		<title>By: The Texas Cloverleaf</title>
		<link>http://capitolannex.com/2006/10/25/permanent-wall-keeps-kids-from-chip-program/comment-page-1/#comment-179954</link>
		<dc:creator>The Texas Cloverleaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;other Republicans), it has become very difficult for middle class families to afford to send their kids to college because tuition costs are skyrocketing. Davis voted to slash funding for the Children's Health Insurance Program, and help create the "permanent wall" that kept kids off CHIP. Of course, after Sherrie Matula held Davis accountable for this vote in 2006, he quickly changed his tune and became "for" CHIP after he was "against" CHIP. Of course, by then it was too late and thousands of Texas children&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="technorati-balloon" href="http://www.technorati.com/cosmos/search.html?url="><img src="http://static.technorati.com/images/bubble_h17.gif" class="technorati-balloon" alt="links from Technorati" style="border:0;" /></a>other Republicans), it has become very difficult for middle class families to afford to send their kids to college because tuition costs are skyrocketing. Davis voted to slash funding for the Children&#8217;s Health Insurance Program, and help create the &#8220;permanent wall&#8221; that kept kids off CHIP. Of course, after Sherrie Matula held Davis accountable for this vote in 2006, he quickly changed his tune and became &#8220;for&#8221; CHIP after he was &#8220;against&#8221; CHIP. Of course, by then it was too late and thousands of Texas children</p>
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